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Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7575]
Dear members of the AHTEG Sub-group,

Further to what was agreed during the teleconference last Thursday, I am pleased to inform that a discussion space is now open at http://bch.cbd.int/onlineconferences/RA_ahteg_subgroup/ to facilitate the work of the Sub-group in addressing the outstanding comments provided through the testing of the Guidance. 

Two background documents are available for this task: (i) the outstanding comments from the testing (Category E only); and (ii) the revised Guidance as agreed by the AHTEG at its face-to-face meeting last November. Furthermore, three additional documents are available for reference.

Please note that the background document containing the outstanding comments in category E is in Excel format and organized in three different spreadsheets (i.e. comments "to be addressed", "to be discussed" and "partially addressed"). For your ease of reference, the line numbers in this document refer to the revised Guidance.

I suggest that you work, in accordance with the schedule agreed during the teleconference, by adding your suggested revisions directly to the text of the Guidance where possible (using the "track changes" tool of Word) **and** by adding your own observations to the Excel file in a additional column explaining if and how you suggest each the comment to be addressed.

Once you are ready to share the results of your analysis, please post a message in this forum with the documents (Guidance in track changes and Excel file) attached to your message.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any question. Once again, I would like to emphasize the importance of the work that the Sub-group has done so far and express my gratitude for your efforts and dedication.

Best regards,
Manoela
(edited on 2016-02-01 16:18 UTC by Manoela Miranda)
posted on 2016-02-01 02:39 UTC by Ms. Manoela Miranda, UNEP/SCBD
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7606]
Dear all,
Here are my comments on the category "to be addressed". It took longer than I expected - even if I tried to follow Manoela's guidance. I would also need help from Manoela on comment R143. Thanks.
I have made some text suggestions to the Guidance. Please take them as first draft suggestions.
I hope to send my comments on "partially addressed" by closing of Sunday.
All the best to you all and looking forward to your feedback.
Marja
posted on 2016-02-10 18:28 UTC by Marja Ruohonen-Lehto
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7684]
Dear All,

please see enclosed here the comments to the compartments "to be addressed" and "to be discussed" made by our subgroup - Francisca and myself.

Best wishes,
Angela
posted on 2016-02-15 17:32 UTC by Ms. Angela Lozan, Republic of Moldova
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7688]
POSTED ON BEHALF OF WEI WEI

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Dear Marja,

Attached please find my comments. I worked with your document on 'partially addressed comments', also few comment/revision on 'comments to be addressed'.  Thank you!

Wei
posted on 2016-02-16 00:27 UTC by Ms. Manoela Miranda, UNEP/SCBD
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7689]
Dear Marja,

In your last message you asked for clarification on which line numbers comment R143 is referring to. Please see below the comment and excepts from the Guidance that it refers to.

Hope this clarifies the question but please do not hesitate to ask again if it is not clear.

Thank you and best wishes,
Manoela

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TESTING COMMENT R143:

Lines 523-525, 580-582, 615-618 and 623-626 are not practical if clear criteria are not established during the planning (context) phase. In particular, the use of ‘indeterminate’ risk (line 624) is impractical as there is always incomplete knowledge and so would be applied for all risks all of the time. This is out of step with the two Australian case studies and regulatory risk assessment methodology in general where uncertainty is already considered as part of the likelihood and consequence assessments.

EXCERPTS FROM THE GUIDANCE:

[ORIGINAL LINES: 523-525; CURRENT LINES: 656-658; rationale step 2] Likelihood may be expressed quantitatively or qualitatively.  For example, qualitative terms could include ‘highly likely’, ‘likely’, ‘unlikely’, and ‘highly unlikely’. Parties may consider describing these terms and their uses in risk assessment guidelines published or adopted by them.

[ORIGINAL LINES: 580-582; CURRENT LINES: 721-724; rationale step 3] The evaluation of the consequence of adverse effects may be expressed qualitatively or quantitatively. For instance, qualitative terms such as ‘major’, ‘intermediate’, ‘minor’ or ‘marginal’ may be used. Parties may consider describing these terms and their uses in risk assessment guidelines published or adopted by them.

[ORIGINAL LINES: 615-618; CURRENT LINES: 759-762; rationale step 4] … and combining them into an estimation of the overall risk, taking into consideration any relevant uncertainty that was identified in each of the preceding steps and how it could affect the estimation of the overall risk of the LMO (see “Identification and consideration of uncertainty” under “Overarching issues in the risk assessment process” above).

[ORIGINAL LINES: 623-626; CURRENT LINES: 771-775; rationale step 4] A description of the risk characterization may be expressed qualitatively or quantitatively. Qualitative terms such as ‘high’, ‘medium’, ‘low’, ‘negligible’ or ‘indeterminate’ (e.g., due to uncertainty or lack of knowledge) have been used to characterize the overall risk of an LMO. Parties could consider describing these terms and their uses in risk assessment guidelines published or adopted by them.
(edited on 2016-02-16 00:45 UTC by Manoela Miranda)
posted on 2016-02-16 00:44 UTC by Ms. Manoela Miranda, UNEP/SCBD
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7690]
Dear all,
Thanks Manoela for your clarification. I have nothing to add while I think I have commented on these issues in my other comments.
I have now looked at Wei's comments and made some additional comments and suggestions. This means that Wei and myself have now looked at comments to be addressed and comments partially addressed. And commented each others comments.
We have unfortunately not yet had time to look at Fran's and Angela's comments on issues to be discussed. Let's decide tomorrow how to do this i.e. how much additional time this would take. I'll try to have a quick look at the comments of Fran and Angela and make an estimate. Unfortunately my day is full of meetings.
Talk to you tomorrow,
Marja
posted on 2016-02-16 21:09 UTC by Marja Ruohonen-Lehto
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RE: Opening of the discussion to address outstanding comments (Category E) from the testing [#7694]
POSTED ON BEHALF OF MARJA
posted on 2016-02-22 22:36 UTC by Ms. Manoela Miranda, UNEP/SCBD
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